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Post by johnmwhite on Dec 10, 2011 12:45:24 GMT -5
All fired ringers have lost their access to the REW Starmaker arena. This means any posts you place on the flashboard will be deleted. Try to post again on the flashboard and your account will be banned. You've had long enough to try to actually make a difference here and you have either not bothered to show up or you have decided to simply aggrandise yourself and urinate all over anybody trying to keep the place going. You do not deserve to continue playing until some contrition is shown, along with a willingness to make an effort to make the game fun, for yourself as well as for other people.
Sure, I just fired half the roster and that's crazy, but it's not like I fired the active half. It's not like I fired the people who try to cooperate with their opponents. Cloud warned you we wouldn't be letting no-showing slide any more.
You want to keep playing? Respond here and say why you should be allowed to continue and what you'll do for the fed. And remember, be nice.
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Post by Tommy Sirius on Dec 10, 2011 18:17:54 GMT -5
Looks JMW with puppy dog eyes rubbing his tail after this lashing....
...oww, me sorry.
No acually, i was booked on the show before i said i was completley back...only said before i could help in the background and put a little in here and there...just not on matches.
NTM, got alot of real life things going on that kept me from roleplay to two days left of the card after i announced, stemming from the seperation between my and my girlfriend i've had for near 8 years...me getting a superviser position at work (and learning that 85% of adults still act like children)....and the sudden influx of women who found out i was single now. So...sowwy JMW...kiss it make it feel better pwease?
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Post by The Messenjah on Dec 10, 2011 19:32:32 GMT -5
Im here and JMW send me the names of them so I could remove them from the active list to the inactive..
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Post by johnmwhite on Dec 10, 2011 22:16:57 GMT -5
Keep up the attitude, Sirius. I am sure it will serve you well when it's 1999 again.
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Post by Trash on Dec 11, 2011 0:15:02 GMT -5
All fired ringers have lost their access to the REW Starmaker arena. This means any posts you place on the flashboard will be deleted. Try to post again on the flashboard and your account will be banned. You've had long enough to try to actually make a difference here and you have either not bothered to show up or you have decided to simply aggrandise yourself and urinate all over anybody trying to keep the place going. You do not deserve to continue playing until some contrition is shown, along with a willingness to make an effort to make the game fun, for yourself as well as for other people. Sure, I just fired half the roster and that's crazy, but it's not like I fired the active half. It's not like I fired the people who try to cooperate with their opponents. Cloud warned you we wouldn't be letting no-showing slide any more. You want to keep playing? Respond here and say why you should be allowed to continue and what you'll do for the fed. And remember, be nice.
YO LISTEN FAG.
U ONLY KICKED EVERYONE OUT CUZ YOUR AFFRAID OF THE COMPETITION. HOW FUNNY THAT YOU FIRE ALL THE INACTIVE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WERENT GAY AND NOW U ONLY LEFT THE GAY LOSERS HERE WHO WERE AFRAID OF THE COMPETITION BECAUSE YOU COULDNT HANDLE IT.
I HAT YOU A LOT AND YOUR SITE SUCKS AND YOU SUCK TOO.
U DONT DESERVE TO PALAY WITH ME SO U DIDNT FIRE ME OR ANY OF THOSE GUYS BECAUSE I QUIT MYSELF BECAUSE YOUR' SUCH A BIG FAG AND SO ARE ALL THE PEOPLE U DIDNT FIRE.
I QUIT FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!@$@#@!@$$$!!!!!
WHEN U COME BACK TO ASK ME TO JOIN BACK I WILL TELL U TO SUCK A DICK FESTIVAL! AND THEN I STILL WONT COME BACK HAHAHAHAHA
(j/k, post strictly for teh lulz)
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Post by johnmwhite on Dec 11, 2011 9:45:26 GMT -5
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Post by Tommy Sirius on Dec 11, 2011 11:33:20 GMT -5
Okay what? How did you take what I was saying? I was just saying i've been busy as hell and only honestly had half as much time as everyone else....so am I still fired?
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Post by johnmwhite on Dec 11, 2011 12:31:47 GMT -5
Try reading your first post again. How do you expect me to take that kind of attitude? Maybe you weren't being serious with the mocking sarcasm but it is difficult to tell tone through text.
Yes, you're still fired, but that can easily be fixed if you really want to stick around. You just have to actually indicate it. I understand people get busy, but the trouble is people are doing nothing at all for the fed, not even a five line post in the span of a week, and then if they do show up it's to demand a world title shot and scrape the bottom of the barrel with the same old 'I am teh awesome!' schtick. This place isn't going to survive with one match per card actually happening.
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Post by Tommy Sirius on Dec 11, 2011 20:01:11 GMT -5
lol the sarcasm wasn't moaking....it was because i felt scolded and like i had been whipped like a child and my daddy rofl. Yes i want to be around, have half a post wrote..just don't want it to be deleted
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Post by johnmwhite on Dec 11, 2011 21:18:41 GMT -5
Looks like I mistook your meaning. As they say on the streets, my bad.
Feel free to post, we'll be happy to see you around when you are able.
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Post by The Outlaw on Dec 11, 2011 21:22:52 GMT -5
I DID post for both of you! YAY!!! Now lets roll with this, it should get fun quickly!
And feel free to fire me, I've only been fired and thrown out of...about every fed I've even been in...banned from 2 feds in Ring Wars but I JUST KEEP COMING BACK!!
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Post by K.C. James on Dec 12, 2011 0:35:28 GMT -5
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Post by Blake Worship on Dec 12, 2011 3:20:38 GMT -5
Frankly, if the fed wasn't already dead before (which it most assuredly was), this little "You're fired" bit isn't going to help do anything but kill the fed further.
It's not children that play this game, it's adults. Real life aside, if you want to be active you will be, but actively punishing ringers for lack of activity is pretty pointless and provides no incentive.
It makes you look bad. World Champion by technicality or whatever the case is, power granted on an interim basis to assist with the fed, and now firing ringers and making them basically suck up just to earn the right to post and create heat? Even those who submit to this will still eventually fade out as time goes on, because that is the nature of e-fedding. You'd be better off recruiting new people than shunning the old.
And I can't help but feel singled out with all this talk of title shot demands and whatnot. First of all, I came back with the intention of making it very clear that I had no predetermined plans, I was simply back. My character is then attacked by who is apparently supposed to be the World Champion, so naturally my RPing flowed in that direction. I made slight mention of my accomplishments, and was then challenged on them by the same person, who has continued to play off of me, which is fine.
From my experience, if my character has been both physically attacked and his status threatened, the natural thing to do is to challenge back and for the highest possible stakes I can. It was not my intention to just jump back into the World Title scene. The "World Champion" started RPing competitively with me, and frankly if that level of feuding didn't eventually end with a title match at some point or another it wouldn't make very much sense. That isn't wrestling.
It's not my job to play nice or to give everybody who's been active a pat on the back. Not to brag, but I was helping to make this place good before just about ALL of you "active" ringers even knew about REW. I'm not one to shun working ground up. My demands don't have to be met on my terms. My matches don't have to be the ones I ask for week in and week out. But I will play to the end that my situation presents to me, and RPing with the fed's champ ends with a title match, because THAT is wrestling.
So I'm not here to ask for permission to post on a place I help make. If I post and I'm banned, then shit, it was a good run and I wish you guys the best of luck, I really do. I truly don't wish to sound mean, but from the current state of affairs I don't see what it is I'm missing out on. And firing people and forcing pleas to continue RPing at their leisure...? This isn't a job, you can't ask for people to commit to playing an internet roleplaying game. Life doesn't work that way, and neither does REW.
If you're really concerned about the state of this fed, why not try posing questions to the roster? Ask for feedback, give incentives for making active contributions to the fed to make it better. Anything but this, because as much as I'd like to, I can almost guarantee it will fail.
But I guess it's not my call to make anymore. Here's hoping you guys figure something out. When it's cool for me to post again the way that makes sense to me and has never failed, someone let me know.
If this lasts, REW won't. Period.
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Post by johnmwhite on Dec 12, 2011 11:25:57 GMT -5
It will be cool for you to post again when you follow instructions. I already said in the original post what you have to do to get back on the roster. You're right about one thing, this game is being played by adults, so it is no longer the staff's job to dangle cookies in front of you to get you to make an effort. We've been doing that too long - title shots for actually turning up to an RP event, a 24/7 title available to anyone with the gumption and courage to take a shot (I think a grand total of one person did), elevating people up the card if they show a modicum of effort, trying to get people engaged with each other with RP events, explanatory match results, and I just tried an insane card to get somebody, anybody, to maybe think about RPing the simple question "what the fuck?" and trying to deal with an apparently insane GM. No one did. Only two people even showed for their match (aside from me, but I was fighting a metaphor that was seemingly lost on 90% of the roster).
It's not our job to make you feel like trying. Well, to an extent it is, but it's a two-way street, you've got to actually wind up trying at some point. If you don't feel like it, or you don't have time, we can't force you and it doesn't make you a bad person, but don't expect us to sit on our hands waiting on you (the collective you) to make another dramatic appearance. The place might well die soon after this, but like I said, it's not as if I fired the active half of the roster. We still have people who post now and then, but there doesn't seem to be any other way to get it through to people that the roster's own apathy is what is smothering the life out of REW. I'm not demanding people suck up to me, I'm demanding they start sucking up to each other - give something to the fed, because it won't be there much longer for folk to just drop in on.
Feel free to think you're being singled out, but you're not. There is a pattern that has been held here at REW for a long, long time, and it has crushed the fed. But if you want me to ask the roster questions, here's one: what is with your incessant need to badmouth and belittle other people and any accomplishments they might have? World champion by technicality? I beat Aaron Holiday for the belt months ago. In a match. A real match, with back and forth action, and guys rolling with one another and selling each others' characters and actions rather than just trying to come out of every exchange looking like a god. You're not the only one who does this, but it's pretty common for vets who believe (rightly or wrongly) they're hot stuff cannot do anything but try to drag down and undermine what other people have done. You think it's not your job to play nice? Guess again. We are only ever as good as our opponents, and if you think every player who you want to gun for is a piece of crap, a jobber, a paper champion or whatever else, then why even play with them? Is it really the self-aggrandising ego-boost? You used to be so much better than that.
So it's your choice to make. Are you going to be mature enough to say "ok, I want to be part of making this place better for everyone" or are you only in it for your own amusement and gratification?
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Post by Blake Worship on Dec 12, 2011 14:22:11 GMT -5
If you feel as though your best bet at reviving this fed is to effectively fire ANY member of the roster for inactivity, that's your prerogative and I'm not here to bash it. I'm simply expressing that a deemed need to go to that resort is as good as condemning the fed to ghost town status, because very little if any good will come of it.
As for myself, I say the things I say based on my understanding. John, I respect your talent, commitment to the game, and have always enjoyed RPing with you. That being said, I don't know why you're still World Champion. The same way you don't know why my title reign lasted 6 months and not 5, I guess you just had to be there. I'm not belittling anyone or selling anyone short, I just speak on what I see, and I have knack for not taking things at face value.
I have to say I don't know how I feel the attitude being taken towards my activity. To be perfectly honest I haven't been back long enough for a real opinion to be made, let alone for me to be made to look like the pompous great. As I've said, only one person has made a consistent effort to RP with myself since I came back, so my RP has naturally gone in that direction. Who have I overlooked? Is there even ANYONE to overlook? No.
And then when I'm the one who gets attacked (which is normal) and gets his spouse kidnapped (tired, but normal) and I RP a story for it, I'm the no-seller? Why shouldn't I expect more to come after that? Especially when it's already been done to me before, by the exact same ringer? Excuse me for doing things a little differently this time, but it's tired. It's 2011. The end result of heat is always the same, but we can at least change up the scenery along the way. I haven't interacted with anyone but JMW, and in this case I chose to fight fire with fire, or rather pompous with pompous.
In the end, nothing I've said is different. No, it's not my job to play nice. As I said, we're adults. No one here is new to this game, so please get used to it. I showed my face, I made it clear I was here, and no one's doing anything. I'm not being selfish, just telling it like it is. It's not about maturity. Point out who is working and I'll go to them and make things happen. I won't be alone though, and save a couple of others that's what I am. It doesn't "amuse" me to be told to prove myself to a fed I help make. Especially when my RP is made to seem inferior to my personal standard because certain people are sensitive to my rhetoric.
You want to change the game to make it better as best you think you can, and that's noble. But your motives are flawed and your methods are impractical. You didn't brainstorm with anyone, and you STILL haven't asked any questions. You're only one person, we need collective thinking to revive this fed. I want to help, I want this fed to thrive because it deserves to, but we have to come up with a different strategy if we can hope for whatever we gain from this to last, and frankly I don't see any success in this route.
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