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Post by Tommy Sirius on Jun 5, 2011 14:48:37 GMT -5
I've tried to help people...give tips...hints...and backhands. But it seems as though people get comfortab....no lazy and just settle into old habits...old safe zones. People get backed into corners and instead of coming out swinging they either crack and bitch out or magically teleport to saftey. Triple X said it to me not to long ago and said it perfectly.
"In this game, the real players and the bitches seperate quickly. The real player roll with whatever is thrown at them and know how to tell a story...while the bitches whine..complain...or just dissapear."
This holds true, and i'd hate to say...i've seen alot of the "bitches" in REW. Guys this is a game to not only practice, master and share your literary skill but to do so with your imagination and creativity. With gimmicks it's usually goes to one or two sides. One, some bland John Cena or Randy Ortan wannabes...or super human undestructible monsters. Guys....grow up. Be original, but don't try to put your characters on "God Mode". As much as he likes to claim his spot as your "god", despite that we all know there is only once messiah and that is me, even Aaron Holiday has weakness...even aaron holiday has had his ass handed to him. But do you know what makes him World Champion material? He rolls with the punches and tells a story.
I'll probably piss people off by saying this, but I really don't care. Gimmicks like Dreamkiller, Freakula..and the new guy...is shit. This super human, you can't beat me or hurt me but i'll kill you crap is fucking stupid. and I hate hearing "i've done it for so long it's hard to do anything else" I call BULLSHIT. I've had the Tommy Sirius character for fuck...13-14 years? And I can spin him anyway...so if I can...everyone of you can. I've done every new thing i can think of for him, every gimmick aside from flaming gay...and you know what...I would do that gimmick...fuck it.
Which brings me to another point, to many people take this game serious. Too take too much pride into their character, like it's an extension of their dick or cunt or what the fuck ever. It's like "what happens to my FICTIONAL WRESTLING ROLEPLAY CHARACTER acually happens to me". Get over it. If you get upped on, take it like a fucking man or woman..whatever. Broken bones heal to be strong, cuts heal to be badges of pride and persaverence. To many of you want to do what ever you can, despite how stupid it may be, to keep from being one uped...IN CHARACTER. If you were outsmarted, you where outsmarted...out done...get over it..take the loss and learn from it.
There are alot of roleplayers out there I have strong ties with, alot of guys that are legends to me and Aaron that I'd love to get to come to REW...and probably could...but this place has to pick up. Stop playing your character like it's acuall you, being fucking creative and god damnit...stop trying to fucking superman freddie krueger jason or any of that shit. IT IS FUCKING STUPID.
You want to get better? You want to learn...take these things we say to you and use them. You wanna keep being super natural? Then get ready for me to go Winchester on your asses. I've been nice each time i've come here...and damnit there is too much potential here to let it waste away like it is.
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Post by johnmwhite on Jun 5, 2011 16:58:03 GMT -5
Dude, you're totally fucking up my idea for starting a school for gifted mutants. I could be a bald professor with mobility trouble who impresses upon them the importance of good virtues like faith, charity, companionship and cooperation, even with people you would normally consider your enemy. Now excuse me while I go patent this brilliant plan before someone else gets there first...
Oh and REW Management do not endorse or condone the above post. Well, maybe secretly. Seriously, folks, I enjoy a good supernatural yarn as much as the next guy, and I've done my stint with characters who play mindgames and have a hint of the ethereal about them. The difference is that when it comes down to it, I remember that I am trying to cooperate with my opponent to tell a story and that story requires each actor to be flexible in playing his part. If both sides decide to be Superman then we have a stalemate where the irresistible force meets the immovable object and, as physics tells us, nothing happens. Or the universe explodes but either way no one is tuning in to watch it. Without some grounding in reality and some give and take between each character, the stories become as interesting as two bricks slapped against each other. I think it's a bit unfair to tear into Draven when he's only made one post, but I understand Dreamer's frustration. I have been here a long time and seen many an angle quashed and many stories derailed because it becomes very difficult for someone to wrestle a demi-god who can throw fireballs and produce blades from his anus to slice their opponent to ribbons. I've asked this before and I have to ask again - do you guys actually want to be part of a wrestling e-fed? Because sometimes it seems like much of the roster is trying to play a different game, and if that's what you want to play then I won't hold it against you, but your universe cannot live on top of ours without this conflict happening time and again.
That's not to say colourful characters are not welcome, and stepping a little on the paranormal side of things is fun. The issue comes when superpowers are used as a shield to deflect any and all attacks or slights against a character and to enforce them upon other characters. A brief example:
John Michael White's characteristics include being rich and a cunning strategist. Aaron Holiday just pissed all over the seat in his office. Now if JMW were to post like a superhuman, he would say "ok I have created some kind of super urine sensor that warns me before I go in and sit down, so I don't get my pants wet and Holiday's plan to annoy is foiled. Also I am so smart I expected this would happen and I had actually taken a chair from Holiday's suite and put it there for him to pee on and now I pay some lackeys to rush it back to the room before he gets there so he comes stumbling in, drunk, and sits in his own piss. Haha, I outsmarted him!"
Then to make things more boring Aaron Holiday could post he has such an awesome nose that he detects the piss before he sits in it and wheels the chair back to my office, sneaking it in while I am in the bathroom and I end up sitting in it anyway.
BUT! I have the urine sensors in my room so he has to destroy them by peeing on them and overpowering them with his mighty man-stream.
Yet I have installed sensors in my pant legs as well because I expected this might happen and... you get the idea. Contrast this with a regular human's response which would be to sit down, get my ass wet and plot my revenge against that bastard. The important thing is that a regular character would react, not reflect. Some grimacing as I feel the stuff soak through, some cursing when I take a sniff and realise exactly what it is, that sort of thing.
So not to blow my own horn (don't laugh), I'm somewhat well regarded in the game and there is a reason for that. I am not saying everybody should copy me and I have all the answers; I think it is very important that people develop their own sense of identity and playing style. But I am generally liked and respected because people enjoy playing the game with me, and they seem to enjoy it the most when I react and roll with their ideas and then share mine. We're playing with sentient beings here, not action figures. Dictating the way everything is going to be makes it difficult for each other to really respond.
There's also an attitude issue that I'd like to get into more but I have rambled too long already. Suffice to say that winning isn't everything, neither in the ring or in segments. Seeking to 'best' the other character you target should not be the objective of each and every post. All of us forget that at times, I'd say including myself and our world champion, because by nature people are competitive, especially in the e-wrestling environment. But I really believe that when we look back our fondest memories are most likely not that time we wrote a post where we used someone else's character as a puppet and made them look stupid, it's the times when working together we have created a story that other people have got interested enough in to commend and things have led to an exciting climax, no matter who won.
TL,DR: Remember you are playing with other people.
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Post by Trash on Jun 5, 2011 17:45:57 GMT -5
I've tried to help people...give tips...hints...and backhands. But it seems as though people get comfortab....no lazy and just settle into old habits...old safe zones. People get backed into corners and instead of coming out swinging they either crack and bitch out or magically teleport to saftey. Triple X said it to me not to long ago and said it perfectly. "In this game, the real players and the bitches seperate quickly. The real player roll with whatever is thrown at them and know how to tell a story...while the bitches whine..complain...or just dissapear." This holds true, and i'd hate to say...i've seen alot of the "bitches" in REW. Guys this is a game to not only practice, master and share your literary skill but to do so with your imagination and creativity. With gimmicks it's usually goes to one or two sides. One, some bland John Cena or Randy Ortan wannabes...or super human undestructible monsters. Guys....grow up. Be original, but don't try to put your characters on "God Mode". As much as he likes to claim his spot as your "god", despite that we all know there is only once messiah and that is me, even Aaron Holiday has weakness...even aaron holiday has had his ass handed to him. But do you know what makes him World Champion material? He rolls with the punches and tells a story. I'll probably piss people off by saying this, but I really don't care. Gimmicks like Dreamkiller, Freakula..and the new guy...is shit. This super human, you can't beat me or hurt me but i'll kill you crap is fucking stupid. and I hate hearing "i've done it for so long it's hard to do anything else" I call BULLSHIT. I've had the Tommy Sirius character for fuck...13-14 years? And I can spin him anyway...so if I can...everyone of you can. I've done every new thing i can think of for him, every gimmick aside from flaming gay...and you know what...I would do that gimmick...fuck it. Which brings me to another point, to many people take this game serious. Too take too much pride into their character, like it's an extension of their dick or cunt or what the fuck ever. It's like "what happens to my FICTIONAL WRESTLING ROLEPLAY CHARACTER acually happens to me". Get over it. If you get upped on, take it like a fucking man or woman..whatever. Broken bones heal to be strong, cuts heal to be badges of pride and persaverence. To many of you want to do what ever you can, despite how stupid it may be, to keep from being one uped...IN CHARACTER. If you were outsmarted, you where outsmarted...out done...get over it..take the loss and learn from it. There are alot of roleplayers out there I have strong ties with, alot of guys that are legends to me and Aaron that I'd love to get to come to REW...and probably could...but this place has to pick up. Stop playing your character like it's acuall you, being fucking creative and god damnit...stop trying to fucking superman freddie krueger jason or any of that shit. IT IS FUCKING STUPID. You want to get better? You want to learn...take these things we say to you and use them. You wanna keep being super natural? Then get ready for me to go Winchester on your asses. I've been nice each time i've come here...and damnit there is too much potential here to let it waste away like it is. I disagree with the, "Let's tell everyone that they suck unless they adopt our own playstyle". If people want to have a gothic characters with supernatural elements and not "Hardcore badasses", then I think that is a whole lot more interesting to read and see.
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Post by Tommy Sirius on Jun 5, 2011 19:25:09 GMT -5
Not once did I say they must adapt my style of roleplaying to be good...all I said is lay off the fucking Supernatural Godmode shit. Trash your character may have some Supernatural shit going on, but you don't "God Mode" your character...and that's awesome. You know, Dreamkiller could stay Dreamkiller same gimmick and all but it' makes it kinda boring to roleplay with him because he god modes it. Like in a match I had with him a long time ago, I slammed him through a plate glass window...he then got up with bleeding grabbed Sirius and slung his blades into his stomach. Like nothing really happened.
No, be supernatural...just don't fucking God-Mode everything.
And as far as being harsh on the new guy allready...well with his first post he fell right into that same boring mold. I will give him props, he probably sold Aaron Holiday better then most of the other "GodModes" we have.
Oh and I have more then just Hardcore Badasses Trash, way more...i've had characters of all spectrums...Tommy Sirius just has the more ties to REW and I really didn't feel like starting new. Though looking forward to seeing a new character in here soon.
Modified: Oh and if my memory serves me correct, I even played the supernatural stuff with Dreamkiller, mortalizing him because and angel possessed Sirius.
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Post by Trash on Jun 5, 2011 20:00:04 GMT -5
Not once did I say they must adapt my style of roleplaying to be good...all I said is lay off the fucking Supernatural Godmode shit. Trash your character may have some Supernatural shit going on, but you don't "God Mode" your character...and that's awesome. You know, Dreamkiller could stay Dreamkiller same gimmick and all but it' makes it kinda boring to roleplay with him because he god modes it. Like in a match I had with him a long time ago, I slammed him through a plate glass window...he then got up with bleeding grabbed Sirius and slung his blades into his stomach. Like nothing really happened. No, be supernatural...just don't fucking God-Mode everything. And as far as being harsh on the new guy allready...well with his first post he fell right into that same boring mold. I will give him props, he probably sold Aaron Holiday better then most of the other "GodModes" we have. Oh and I have more then just Hardcore Badasses Trash, way more...i've had characters of all spectrums...Tommy Sirius just has the more ties to REW and I really didn't feel like starting new. Though looking forward to seeing a new character in here soon. Modified: Oh and if my memory serves me correct, I even played the supernatural stuff with Dreamkiller, mortalizing him because and angel possessed Sirius. I understand what you mean, I just think the way you say it is quite off putting to the newcomers. I am sure eventually even the most insistant God Mode monster will tire out of it and go with something different. At this stage we cant afford to put off any new guys, as we can use any new blood in the fed, be it an unbeatable monster or anything else.
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Post by Tommy Sirius on Jun 6, 2011 8:41:44 GMT -5
i understand by what you mean by scaring off the new blood, im just fed up with all this taking it personal and god moding crap. Not to mention with what I said, if it makes someone leave...they weren't going to be around for long anyways. I'd suggest anyone come on here and play with whatever gimmick they want, but if they want to better themselves and acually ask for help...take the advice given and instead of discarding it...let it sink in.
Supernatural or not, just stop with the damn godmoding.
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Post by The Messenjah on Jun 6, 2011 10:22:02 GMT -5
Okay I agree to dis agree? lol But anyway come on guys with the dreamkiller I have actually talked to him in the past about it and I am helping him with that if you looked at the past weeks he hasn't done powers and whatnot I think he is improving on that..So can you guys plz don't bash on people like that he is improving form this supernatural stuff..
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Post by The Outlaw on Jun 6, 2011 11:59:53 GMT -5
I would just like to say I'm flattered with all the references to me! And envious of JMW because he sounds and looks so smart OOC! I can too at times, I just need to write like Hemingway with a few drinks in me!
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Post by The Outlaw on Jun 6, 2011 12:02:00 GMT -5
Oh and one last thing Dreamer....You need to change your picture, you look like a Vampire, and if you go Winchester, I SOOO Wanna go and I don't even care if I'm Sam or Dean!
And John....Granted your bald but isn't there already someone here named Xavier?
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Post by Tommy Sirius on Jun 6, 2011 12:49:57 GMT -5
No one is bashing Dreamkiller Ichy, I like the guy..allways have...just not impressed with some of his past things...and oh god...he's getting help from you? uh oh
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Post by Tommy Sirius on Jun 6, 2011 19:22:09 GMT -5
hahaha, who graded me an F?
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Post by The Messenjah on Jun 6, 2011 20:04:56 GMT -5
lol hush I mean helping him in changing the supernatural stuff
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