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Post by johnmwhite on Jan 21, 2014 22:37:31 GMT -5
FF13 was dumbed down by very dumb adults at Square Enix who have no idea what a video game is and have been trying to make films since The Spirits Within. I think the new generation can be taught to be competent ringers, with a little patience.
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Post by johnmwhite on Jan 21, 2014 22:49:15 GMT -5
Remember Phoenix Pro Wrestling? It was a bit of a disaster because we didn't have the numbers, but I was checking out FedWars and noticed that apparently I have enough points (whatever those are) to revive the fed. Or we could just make another one. Either way, I was thinking that we could pop into VWF and FedX to attempt to recruit some people by letting them know we believe in the old ways, and we might be able to pull in some people from other FedWars federations and teach them a thing or two. It'll require some coordination, though, I don't think one random guy appearing and going "join my ancient dead fed" will make much of an impression, but the three of us are sophisticated chaps so perhaps we can all lend a hand to persuading a few others to join us.
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Post by K.C. James on Jan 21, 2014 22:50:16 GMT -5
While I admire your spirit JMW, for once, I must side with Trash. I cant see us swarming social media and getting a fresh new breed excited about the prospect of writing posts on a proboard site. The best method, perhaps, at our fingertips is advertising in other places doing something similar.
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Post by K.C. James on Jan 21, 2014 22:51:27 GMT -5
Mind read much?
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Post by johnmwhite on Jan 21, 2014 22:55:34 GMT -5
Of course I mind read. It's my gimmick Seriously, I completely agree that going for somewhere that does e-fedding of any sort is a much better idea than popping up on Facebook or Twitter. I think I was just getting a bit desperate for ideas and throwing stuff at the wall. FedWars at least seems to have a somewhat viable ecosystem for the time being, and while the trend today is for the larger e-fedding sites to crash, if we can at least make some connections there and get some shows under our belt, I'm sure we could readily go to a bog standard forum. We just need a foot in the door and a few more bodies.
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Post by Trash on Jan 21, 2014 23:02:19 GMT -5
Yup, that sounds good. I am not fond of the idea of "recruiting" in other feds because that's generally frowned upon. "Oh look, another bunch of rejects trying to steal players from us! BANNED!" etc etc. But I am willing to give FedWars a try, as much as I can. Right now I'm working two jobs and going back to school next week.
This week is pretty much free though.
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Post by K.C. James on Jan 21, 2014 23:03:36 GMT -5
Anyone got any contacts to get some bodies for this?
Also - small tidbit. Which fed?
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Post by Trash on Jan 21, 2014 23:04:31 GMT -5
Anyone got any contacts to get some bodies for this? I am a hermit. I have pretty much zero contacts in anything and the few people that I do talk to aren't even wrestling fans.
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Post by K.C. James on Jan 21, 2014 23:06:39 GMT -5
I have literally no old contacts. Dare I say, you guys are the closest thing to friends inside the e-fedding world.
*Cries a little*
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Post by Trash on Jan 21, 2014 23:08:15 GMT -5
I have one guys' email from way back in the heyday of Ring-Wars, but he apparently decided to get a life and seems to have no interest in rping again.
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Post by johnmwhite on Jan 21, 2014 23:08:30 GMT -5
Well I wasn't planning on walking into other feds and going "hey, come join us instead". There's a recruitment board at FedWars for finding people, and I thought I could at least get a discussion going on the way we play. So far I have been scanning some of the feds in their list and they generally are all the same: don't touch other guys, write a promo and we'll write the matches. NWF seems a little different, it says it is ok to attack another ringer without permission, but you cannot under any circumstances make them speak. And I'm pretty sure they have writers do the actual matches instead of the wrestlers. Haven't finished going through the list yet but I thought I could post something on their forums to get the ball rolling.
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Post by Trash on Jan 21, 2014 23:11:13 GMT -5
Well I wasn't planning on walking into other feds and going "hey, come join us instead". There's a recruitment board at FedWars for finding people, and I thought I could at least get a discussion going on the way we play. So far I have been scanning some of the feds in their list and they generally are all the same: don't touch other guys, write a promo and we'll write the matches. NWF seems a little different, it says it is ok to attack another ringer without permission, but you cannot under any circumstances make them speak. And I'm pretty sure they have writers do the actual matches instead of the wrestlers. Haven't finished going through the list yet but I thought I could post something on their forums to get the ball rolling. Sounds good. I hate the no touching rule, but I understand why it came into effect. This is a generation of children, and as we experienced here, a lot of them, if given free will, would just write your person out of character and always win. See, John M White the drunk swearing sailor and Trash the swearing coward who couldn't wrestle their way out of a paper bag...
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Post by K.C. James on Jan 21, 2014 23:11:27 GMT -5
I find it quite strange that we have like eleven or twelve guests on the site and not a one has popped into this conversation. They just lurk like shadows.
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Post by johnmwhite on Jan 21, 2014 23:23:21 GMT -5
I'm not sure those were children, Trash, I think they were about our age and just never learned. Can't say for 100% sure, though. As for the guests, I have a feeling there's some glitch in the counter that duplicates visitors. There's almost always another guest here if I visit. If there are others out there, though, feel free to say hi.
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Post by johnmwhite on Jan 21, 2014 23:24:17 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I was going to post this over at FedWars:
Anybody remember those old umbrella groups full of different federations? Back in the late 1990s/early 2000s they were the place a lot of e-wrestlers got their start or made their mark. I ask because I haven't RP'd in about a year, since an old fed I would frequent collapsed, recently got back in touch with a couple of old friends from there. Together we're trying to get back to that style of roleplaying, which is quite different from how almost all e-feds conduct themselves today. Now, feds are quite insistent that you do not touch the other wrestlers in your posts, ever, and they have matches written out by third parties.
To us, mixing it up with other people is kind of the point of the game. Cutting promos and posting character development is all well and good, but sometimes you need a reaction, or even spice things up with a bit of a brawl. It is wrestling, after all, and back in the day we wrote our own matches by alternating posts off one another where we took turns dictating the action. Sometimes someone would make themselves look way too good at the expense of their opponent, or just no-sell what somebody else wrote, but they quickly learned that wasn't how you conduct yourself.
Here's an example to make it clear:
The_Mike posts a promo talking about how great he is, and how happy he is to be in Detroit City for a wrestling show.
Symbol posts that he has interrupted at the end of the promo, to say that The_Mike sucks and Detroit stinks.
Them's fightin' words, so The_Mike posts that he dives out of the ring and starts punching Symbol, brawling into the crowd.
The bookers take note of this little altercation and book the pair for a match at the next show. Both guys post a promo, then Symbol posts the beginning of the match action. The_Mike posts some action a little later into the match. The bookers judge the posts and determine who is the winner, and they post the ending.
So what I'm asking is: is there a fed here that operates that way already, or would anybody here be interested in joining one? You get to grips with your opponent, and such back and forth interaction is a new challenge for people who are confident in their ability to write about their character on their own.
Let me know what you think. Should I change anything?
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